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England has got loads.Ellie: You can’t be stuffy about it.Jess: But now you’re older and you look at 12-year-olds… Either side of the argument tells a story.Why is it that only teenagers are immune to the spirit of goodwill at Christmas?Jess: Slight generalisation – I know more people who love it than hate it.Adam: Ageist question. They always ask those things, every week; teenagers are all bastards.Jess: It’s not “Is it only teens”, it’s “Why is it only teens”.Alex: Was Scrooge a teenager? I think not.Tom: Adults usually hate Christmas more than children.Jess: Adults are more mature, or whatever, so they see it being commercialised That’s what annoys them about Christmas. I’m not too bothered, really, but if you just let foxes populate and grow and grow they run out of food and die of hunger, which is actually probably crueller than killing them in the first place. I can see why people prefer fox-hunting.Alex: I think they shouldn’t use the dogs if they want to hunt, but I think, just on an individual basis, it should be pro-choice.Jess: It just seems strange that we’d get really involved when we live in a city and have never seen fox-hunting – just getting involved to help the foxes. I mean, I think it’s cruel and unnecessary, but I wouldn’t make any effort to get directly involved.Alex: But what about if you had to? Shooting them or poisoning them?Jess: Why would you want to poison them?Adam: Well, because they steal the chickens!Alex: They are actually beneficial.Zenobe: Do you live in the country?Alex: Yes.

They get a whole load of people to flap around the field with these big white flags and it’s really loud, yeah, and there are all these fat rich men with big guns messing with these birds. Yes, it’s a tradition, but you’re very rich, you can find something else to do. You don’t have to do that – but then, they’ve got their reasons.Zenobe: They can still go and shoot birds.Adam: Birds are weird. A very strongly worded letter to the town council.Adam: After the last three protests, I think there could be a lot of public unrest in the future about…Zenobe: America…Alex: And there were fox-hunting protests as well…Adam: What do you think about that?Jess: I’m quite unaffected by it.Zenobe: I don’t really know.Jess: Isn’t it they’re trying to claim the foxes have a good time or something?Ellie: They claim they’re not going to get hurt, but they’re really tired at the end and stuff.Adam: But they are like vermin.Zenobe: And they kill the rabbits.Adam: Yeah, and rabbits are the nice animals that you take pictures of and stuff.Jess: I can’t be for fox-hunting, I just think it’s a bit unnecessary. But then, they don’t have to acknowledge you; and if they don’t have to, they probably don’t.Alex: I’d still complain.

It’s in three years.Tom: I don’t want a gap year at the moment, but maybe by the time I get there I’ll need a break.Adam: So, no, the cost doesn’t stop us from going, but it could prevent me from having a gap year. I want to go to university, yeah.(All say “Yes”) It’s like a step up, but you still don’t have full responsibility, you’re not yet in the real world.Would you be prepared to protest against an increase in university fees?Jess: If I thought it would make a difference.Zenobe: I think it’s about showing that…Jess: They can’t completely ignore us – we’re the people who it directly affects and we’d be the people who don’t agree with it, and to completely ignore that would just be completely despicable. I couldn’t give up that chance because that’s what I want to do, and it’s really frustrating.Zenobe: If they delay it a year, maybe we can have a gap year. They work me so hard, I want a year just to piss about.Jess: Everyone I know who travelled did it in their gap year and haven’t had a chance since.